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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Most Deceptive Act Ever Took Place in Devalokam: Open Letter</title> <atom:link href="http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos</link> <description>Online Christian Publication for Indian Orthodox Malankara Keralite Malayali Christian By BMM Creations Inc.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:39:32 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Fr. Dr. Joy Pyngolil</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-3480</link> <dc:creator>Fr. Dr. Joy Pyngolil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 23:58:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-3480</guid> <description>Well,well, I was very disturbed while reading the posting by Mathews Achen.  I couldn&#039;t comment on it without hearing the other side of the story.  During my recent visit to Develokam I spoke with the concerned  Achen and involved bishop.   The fact  is far away from reality.  There were prayers.  HH started the Promeon while he was seated  (please understand the age and mobility of HH) at the Northern side. The censoring bishop went to all the tombs including HG Mar Makarios on the south side.   There is nothing unusual about it.  In fact the Holy Liturgy was celebrated  for the Memorial day of HG Mar Makarios.However, after the Holy Qurbana, when dhoopprarthana starts they all go to the northern part first, because of the protocol.  In the future also, it will be the same protocol.  Please understand that our church respects and recognizes age and rank in all matters, even at the memorial service.  So why do we weep?Second, HG Mar Makarios was the bishop of our Church, not simply the brother of Rev. Fr.K.C. Mathew, and that is why his remains are kept at Devalokam.  It is the responsibility of the Church and Devalokam authorities to pay due respect to our fathers.  Families may abstain from taking  undue responsibility of celebrating the death anniversary  of their beloved ones in a common place, like Seminary or Devalokam.   We remember our fathers and let it be done by the people involved at the respective places.
There was a communication errors due to over involvement that one of the bishops for the moonninmel showed up late.  Was it intentional? not at all.The tomb and surroundings of HG.Mar Makarios is well maintained, (thanks to Christophoros Rmaban).   People need to visit the tombs of our bishops frequently and pay homage.   Let their souls rest in peace; let&#039;s guard each others&#039; dignity-living or dead.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,well, I was very disturbed while reading the posting by Mathews Achen.  I couldn&#8217;t comment on it without hearing the other side of the story.  During my recent visit to Develokam I spoke with the concerned  Achen and involved bishop.   The fact  is far away from reality.  There were prayers.  HH started the Promeon while he was seated  (please understand the age and mobility of HH) at the Northern side. The censoring bishop went to all the tombs including HG Mar Makarios on the south side.   There is nothing unusual about it.  In fact the Holy Liturgy was celebrated  for the Memorial day of HG Mar Makarios.</p><p>However, after the Holy Qurbana, when dhoopprarthana starts they all go to the northern part first, because of the protocol.  In the future also, it will be the same protocol.  Please understand that our church respects and recognizes age and rank in all matters, even at the memorial service.  So why do we weep?</p><p>Second, HG Mar Makarios was the bishop of our Church, not simply the brother of Rev. Fr.K.C. Mathew, and that is why his remains are kept at Devalokam.  It is the responsibility of the Church and Devalokam authorities to pay due respect to our fathers.  Families may abstain from taking  undue responsibility of celebrating the death anniversary  of their beloved ones in a common place, like Seminary or Devalokam.   We remember our fathers and let it be done by the people involved at the respective places.<br
/> There was a communication errors due to over involvement that one of the bishops for the moonninmel showed up late.  Was it intentional? not at all.</p><p>The tomb and surroundings of HG.Mar Makarios is well maintained, (thanks to Christophoros Rmaban).   People need to visit the tombs of our bishops frequently and pay homage.   Let their souls rest in peace; let&#8217;s guard each others&#8217; dignity-living or dead.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cyril Thomas</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2769</link> <dc:creator>Cyril Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:42:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2769</guid> <description>Just Pathetic (the Situation and the people who are behind such acts)
Just another day in our lovely Church!
And we wonder why so many people leave our church?
I blame our Bishops and Priests who corrupt the BODY OF CHRIST!...SHAME ON YOU!Hopefully, Someone will take Fr. E.M. Philip out of Devalokam before he destroys whatever credibility we have left!And there will come a time when no one pays respect/prayers at the tomb of the our forefathers. This is nothing new!Just glad to know that H.G. Mar Makarios knew what the situation was before he passed away.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Pathetic (the Situation and the people who are behind such acts)<br
/> Just another day in our lovely Church!<br
/> And we wonder why so many people leave our church?<br
/> I blame our Bishops and Priests who corrupt the BODY OF CHRIST!&#8230;SHAME ON YOU!</p><p>Hopefully, Someone will take Fr. E.M. Philip out of Devalokam before he destroys whatever credibility we have left!</p><p>And there will come a time when no one pays respect/prayers at the tomb of the our forefathers. This is nothing new!</p><p>Just glad to know that H.G. Mar Makarios knew what the situation was before he passed away.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Koshy</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2732</link> <dc:creator>Koshy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2732</guid> <description>The article in &quot;Vishwasa Rakshan&quot; claims that, a fist fight broke out, between the relatives of Bishop Makarios and the seminary autorities.... They have made a mountain out of a mole... surely they got the lead from this article here..Why make a mockery of the Church</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article in &#8220;Vishwasa Rakshan&#8221; claims that, a fist fight broke out, between the relatives of Bishop Makarios and the seminary autorities&#8230;. They have made a mountain out of a mole&#8230; surely they got the lead from this article here..</p><p>Why make a mockery of the Church</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Koshy</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2723</link> <dc:creator>Koshy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:09:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2723</guid> <description>Their are matters, that needs to be kept private... Many Church loving people like me, do not want to read all these things.. If something has happened to one family.. let them take it to the concerned.... Will it solve the pproblem, by shooting such and open letter. Orthodox Church is not about one family , their are many many innocent people who wish to see the church in good light.This same event, is shown in an even more bad light in the jacobite weekly, &quot;Vishwasa Rakshakan&quot;. What was the need for, Fr. K C Mathews, for spoiling the name of OUR church ?This type of senseless posts are hamperin THE CHURCH.... the priests and bishops, whom you are accusing will turn to dust in a few years.. but  THE CHURCH, has to bear the burden of all these.. and please also bear in mind, THE CHURCH, do not belong to individuals...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their are matters, that needs to be kept private&#8230; Many Church loving people like me, do not want to read all these things.. If something has happened to one family.. let them take it to the concerned&#8230;. Will it solve the pproblem, by shooting such and open letter. Orthodox Church is not about one family , their are many many innocent people who wish to see the church in good light.</p><p>This same event, is shown in an even more bad light in the jacobite weekly, &#8220;Vishwasa Rakshakan&#8221;. What was the need for, Fr. K C Mathews, for spoiling the name of OUR church ?</p><p>This type of senseless posts are hamperin THE CHURCH&#8230;. the priests and bishops, whom you are accusing will turn to dust in a few years.. but  THE CHURCH, has to bear the burden of all these.. and please also bear in mind, THE CHURCH, do not belong to individuals&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2695</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:19:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2695</guid> <description>Is this Fr. K.C. Mathews Corepiscoapa from Indian Orthodox Church, shame on you father for posting suct an open letter. Better you follow moses gurgan.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Fr. K.C. Mathews Corepiscoapa from Indian Orthodox Church, shame on you father for posting suct an open letter. Better you follow moses gurgan.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Mathew</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2642</link> <dc:creator>John Mathew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2642</guid> <description>Why criticize the author for posting an open letter? He clearly has a grievance and --- thanks to modern technology --- he has an avenue for that. What&#039;s wrong?We have a long history of poor-quality bishops and leaders, both in Malankara, and in general Christianity. These qualities should not be hidden, but rather exposed, so that, on seeing their shameful behavior, perhaps these bishops, priests, etc., repent and correct themselves.I&#039;m not claiming the author of this letter is correct; however, I feel that the over-simplistic reactions by others against this have no meaning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why criticize the author for posting an open letter? He clearly has a grievance and &#8212; thanks to modern technology &#8212; he has an avenue for that. What&#8217;s wrong?</p><p>We have a long history of poor-quality bishops and leaders, both in Malankara, and in general Christianity. These qualities should not be hidden, but rather exposed, so that, on seeing their shameful behavior, perhaps these bishops, priests, etc., repent and correct themselves.</p><p>I&#8217;m not claiming the author of this letter is correct; however, I feel that the over-simplistic reactions by others against this have no meaning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robin</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2540</link> <dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2540</guid> <description>Here is another great example of an open letter and it truly reveals the blind faith practiced by many in Kerala. Truth be told.http://syrianchurch.org/Articles/OpenLetter1982_b.pdf</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another great example of an open letter and it truly reveals the blind faith practiced by many in Kerala. Truth be told.</p><p><a
href="http://syrianchurch.org/Articles/OpenLetter1982_b.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://syrianchurch.org/Articles/OpenLetter1982_b.pdf</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tessy</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2512</link> <dc:creator>Tessy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:55:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2512</guid> <description>Open letters express our concerns. Taken in the right perspective, these open letters are platforms for improvement. Ofcourse, there is criticism and points of thought that needs to be properly addressed by those in authority.What has happened here certainly needs to be deplored and corrrective actions taken by the authorities, such that the same mistakes do not recur at all in future.Genuine Open letters are windows to correct our functioning. Here&#039;s one such letter seen in the net;http://www.scribd.com/doc/28443051/Open-Letter</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open letters express our concerns. Taken in the right perspective, these open letters are platforms for improvement. Ofcourse, there is criticism and points of thought that needs to be properly addressed by those in authority.</p><p>What has happened here certainly needs to be deplored and corrrective actions taken by the authorities, such that the same mistakes do not recur at all in future.</p><p>Genuine Open letters are windows to correct our functioning. Here&#8217;s one such letter seen in the net;</p><p><a
href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/28443051/Open-Letter" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/28443051/Open-Letter</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Biju Mathew</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2467</link> <dc:creator>Biju Mathew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:35:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2467</guid> <description>Its Pathetic! Is this the example the church leaders give the layman? Do you wonder why more and more people turn to protestant believes these days?This and so much more! RETURN TO YOUR FIRST LOVE!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its Pathetic! Is this the example the church leaders give the layman? Do you wonder why more and more people turn to protestant believes these days?</p><p>This and so much more! RETURN TO YOUR FIRST LOVE!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fr.Johnson Punchakonam</title><link>http://www.orthodoxherald.com/2010/03/08/the-most-deceptive-act-ever-took-place-in-devalokam-an-open-letter-to-the-catholicos/comment-page-1/#comment-2437</link> <dc:creator>Fr.Johnson Punchakonam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:54:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.orthodoxherald.com/?p=4121#comment-2437</guid> <description>It is a shocking news what happened at Devalokam Aramana Chapel  during the second death anniversary celebrations of  Makariose Thirumeni.  It is the bound duty of the chief celebrant to offer censoring, “Kukiliyon”  and reading promeon-sedera to respect and homage to the late great Macarios  Thirumeni.   I don’t know why this happened.  May be by mistake.  We have to forgive.  If you refuse to forgive others, God will refuse to forgive you.
But blaming the Catholicose designate is not good at this point.  That should be avoided.  It is the prime duty of the Aramana Manager to make arrangements for the ceremonial functions of the Aramana Chapel.To err is human; to forgive is divine. Human justice says, if you do the crime, you receive the punishment. Divine grace says, if you do the crime, God’s only Son receives the punishment.  Most of us would like both to be judged by grace and to judge others by harsher standards. But that’s hypocrisy. Humanity’s Judge must be perfect.
Fr.Johnson Punchakonam
www.indianchristianity.org</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shocking news what happened at Devalokam Aramana Chapel  during the second death anniversary celebrations of  Makariose Thirumeni.  It is the bound duty of the chief celebrant to offer censoring, “Kukiliyon”  and reading promeon-sedera to respect and homage to the late great Macarios  Thirumeni.   I don’t know why this happened.  May be by mistake.  We have to forgive.  If you refuse to forgive others, God will refuse to forgive you.</p><p> But blaming the Catholicose designate is not good at this point.  That should be avoided.  It is the prime duty of the Aramana Manager to make arrangements for the ceremonial functions of the Aramana Chapel.</p><p> To err is human; to forgive is divine. Human justice says, if you do the crime, you receive the punishment. Divine grace says, if you do the crime, God’s only Son receives the punishment.  Most of us would like both to be judged by grace and to judge others by harsher standards. But that’s hypocrisy. Humanity’s Judge must be perfect.<br
/> Fr.Johnson Punchakonam<br
/> <a
href="http://www.indianchristianity.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.indianchristianity.org</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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