Comments on: Geevarghese Mar Barnabas: A New Metropolitan in Jacobite Church

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Adminstrator — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:19:56 +0000

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By: manu zachariah

manu zachariah — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:05:26 +0000

hi,

Due the politic in IOC , Malankara rith was formed

By: abeesh jose

abeesh jose — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:46:02 +0000

the dispute is really related to faith than any other matter.

while jacobites believe in the spirtual supremacy and grace of patriarch indian orthodox people dont like this .

now in disputed churches which are in control of either faction those who want to continue their belief have to change their faith according to the control of church.

By: arun

arun — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:08:37 +0000

the fact of the orthdox belivers is that they need patriarch in constitution but canno recoginize him in public

By: Jobi Joy

Jobi Joy — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:08:49 +0000

Hi dear brother’s and Achan’s,
realy , Is any one got any life for God? what you are writing? I am asame and pity for these kind of Priest we had(both facation).
please
“Experience the power of remission of sins and peaceful life through the shed blood of Christ on the cross and fulfill the holiness and ministry of Jesus Christ to prepare for the rapture at the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ
Best Wishes
Jobi

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:03:55 +0000

Jacobites will never use H.G Barnabas thirumeni as a tool to capture any catholicos faction churches. Its a human beings freedom to choose which church he wants to. No one can question that.
Just one more question, did H.G taken any common property of catholicos faction along with him when he joined jacobites?
But at the same time u guyz see what MVPA Athasious thirumeni and Milithious thirumeni done and what they are doing now.
Even an LKG kid can answer this

By: Kunjachen Manarcaud

Kunjachen Manarcaud — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:55:40 +0000

A Report Card of the Bishops Of the Indian Orthodox Church.

Name Diocese Spiritual Life Administration,Remarks

Baselios Didymos I Catholicos Good Good Ripe Old Age,Time for Retirement.

Paulose Milithios Kunnamkulam Good Average Catholicos Designate,
Cannot Govern independantly needs support.

Geevarghese Osthathios Retired Good Average,
Missionary Zeal even in old age.

Mathews Barnabas North America Good Average, Strict Disciplinarian

Thomas Athanasios Chengannur Average Best,Proud but Best Organizer and Politician,Greed for position.

Geevarghese Ivanios Kottayam Good Good,Best Horticulturist

Thomas Athanasios Dr Kandanadu Average Average,Best Orator

Kuriakose Clemis Thumpamon Good Average,Silent Spectator

Zakariah Anthonios Kollam Good Average,Silent Spectator

Mathews Severios Kandanadu Good Best ,Proud but Strict Disciplinarian and best politician,greed for position.

Job Philexenos Delhi Good Good,Sick and Bedridden.

Geevarghese Coorilos Mumbai Average Poor
Poor Goveranance,Frequent Flier,Greed for position.

Yuhanon Milithios Trishur Poor Poor,Best Orator

Zakariah Nicholovas North America Average Average Best assistance

Paulose Pachomios Mavelikara Average Poor Poor,Goveranance

Yacoub Irenios Kochi Average Poor Poor Goveranance,Greed for position.

Gabriel Gregorios Thiruvandupuram Average Poor
Poor Goveranance,but a Disciplinarian

Yuhanon Chrisostomos Nirnam Good Average
Best Orator but not upto the level of Dr Osthatios in Mission field.

Zakariah Theophilos Malabar Average Average Best Orator

Yuhanon Policarpos Angamaly Average New Incumbent
Likely to succeed everywhere

Mathews Theodosius Idduki Average New Incumbent Best in canvasing

Joseph Dynasios Kolkotta Average New Incumbent Best Teacher/Orator

Abraham Epiphanios Sultan Battery Average New Incumbent Only external apperance,Greed for position.

Mathews Themotios London Average New Incumbent
Likely to succeed everywhere

Alexios Eusebios South America Average New Incumbent A Future Catholicos

Yuhanon Dioscorous Chennai Average New Incumbent
Childish Attitude but will succeed everywhere.

Got details from a firm orthodox believer from my home town

Kunjachen,Pallivadukal,Manarcaud,Kottayam.

By: Fr. JOBYMON

Fr. JOBYMON — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:15:23 +0000

Dear Geroge Achan,
Will you please explain the cocept of Autocephaly ( which itself is A BYZYNTINE CONCEPT according to H. G. Dr. Thomas Mor Athanasius, a Member of your Synod) against the background of MLANKARA ARCHDIOCESE, for which the “SRIAN CHRISTIAN ASSOSSIATION” formed as per your 1934 constitution ( See section four of your constitution in English from this official ink http://malankaraorthodoxchurch.in/images/stories/File/MalankaraSabha/The%20Constitution.pdf

By: Itty Pothen

Itty Pothen — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:40:23 +0000

Dear Binu,
I do not intend to re-invent the wheel again; to get into a lengthy discussion.
Your question and the answers to it have been discussed not just a few but a number of times in prominent internet forums by eminent personalities. Moreover a lot of books on your ‘Question in context’ are available on the Church History in India, written by famed scholars and historians that are available in all leading libraries. Again, I specify a number of books by prominent personalities and I don’t point to a book for you, because if I do that then you’ll say I’m prejudiced. Take time, read as much of all the books without bias, do an analysis and satisfy your-self and the Good LORD will guide you to find answers to your questions.

Bye,
Itty Pothen.

By: Abu

Abu — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:47:41 +0000

Based on the same freedom that George achen mentions, every Indian citizen is entitled to the freedom to choose a religion, or church (or constitution) and the extending the same democratic right to parishes. (The freedom that Mr.Pothen, HG.Athanasios and Barnabas thirumeni exercised)
Beyond all that, the freedom that Christ promised us, the freedom from sin attained through following his commandment to love thy neighbor/brother, manifested through the willingness to count thy brother greater than himself, that’s the only Christian virtue that the laymen from both churches, people who love this church demand of the leaders of both factions.
The era of litigation and street fights should end. Our great church deserves and should demand that greatness from our priests and leaders. Blaming and arguing each other are not the Christian way. We need leaders who teach the love of Christ who live (at least try to live) like Christ.
The change, and the prayer to show us the way to change should come from every member, of both churches. I personally commit to pray every single day of this great lent to change the hearts of our people, our priests, our bishops, the bishops who are going to be elected in IOC so that our churches will become beacons of light at least to the next generation (and also to forgive those who led my generation through litigation and street fights and allowed my savior’s name to be ridiculed by the Hindus and Muslims and my church to be ridiculed by the non-orthodox)
May God give all of us the renewed faith and wisdom during this Lenten season.
-Abu, Saint Paul